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| Signatures including commentsRefine your search Show all comments (sorted by date) Show all comments (sorted by length) Show regional comments: Comments from Poland88 comments. (Note: Some comments are not made public accessible.) 18 Mar 10:38 Poland AGH University of Science and Technology Krzysztof Bukowski A huge amount of bureaucracy always discouraged me to apply for a grant from the EU! 18 Mar 18:07 Poland AGH University of Science and Technology Jerzy Niewodniczanski Scientists - especially those good in basic scientific research - are usually not very good in filling complicated European forms and other papers accompanying the proposals. As a result the winers are not the best in science, but the best in understanding complicated European procedures and practices. It has to be changed. 31 Mar 15:13 Poland AGH University of Science and Technology Jaroslaw Bulat Bureaucracy cost a lot! Please reduce it!! 18 Mar 14:09 Poland AGH-University of Science and Technology Jerzy JANCZYSZYN The rules of science financing in Poland are not clear and changing during the project realisation. It may be or is caused also by the anxiety of wrong interpretation of EC legal documents by our accountants. Altogether for scientists it means wasting a lot of time for complying with the formal expectations. It will most probably cause in future a lot of resignations from applying for EC founding. 30 Mar 15:32 Poland Agricultural University Maciej Murawski I egree with this Declaration. Rules should be simplified. 5 Mar 09:14 Poland Center of Technology Transfer Katarzyna Podhajska-Średniawa In concern of SME, our clients, we are obliged to support. 7 Apr 19:19 Poland Copernicus Astronomical Center, Polish Academy of Sciences Andrzej Krasinski The red tape of the EU research grants is now world-famous and is discouraging many scientists, including me, from applying for them. The procedures must be simplified. 3 Mar 12:33 Poland Department of Genetics, University of Warmia and Mazury Roman Zielinski After participation in EU FP programmes I have to say that the programmes are just to keep the positions for EU officers. At the step of the proposal the politics is more important than science. This way is not possible to make Europe innovative. At the project stage most of the time are spend to write reports of which templates change each year 22 Apr 23:34 Poland ESAPROJEKT Sp. z o.o. Rafal Dunal :) 12 Mar 09:03 Poland Facul;ty of Geology, Geophysics and Environmental Protection, AGH University of Science and Technology Witold Zuchiewicz I strongly support this declaration. Growing administrative burden hampers development of science in many countries, including mine. 18 Feb 17:46 Poland Faculty of Physics, Warsaw University of Technology Janusz Holyst I have to spend more and more time for administrative/financial issues in EU Projects. I am afraid that people creating/supervising these procedures do not understand that sciense is a Hard Competition Activity and fulfilling all bureaucratic task we limit our scientific efficiency. 22 Mar 11:14 Poland Faculty of Physics, Warsaw University of Technology Jan Jacek Żebrowski Although control is necessary, the extreme amount of paperwork is taxing heavily the resources of scientific groups and drastically slowing down research and creativity. 21 Mar 15:19 Poland Faulty of ETI, Gdansk University of Technology Bogdan Wiszniewski Innovation becomes riskier and more costly as global competition intensifies. A belief that risk could be eliminated in collaborative research with bureaucratic procedures is naive and utopian. Shared risk partnership in FP should imply responsibility of all consortium members and the Commission alike, which should be ready to accept a certain level of uncertainty regarding the final project result. For otherwise it would not be an innovation (meaning discovery of new facts) but mere implementation of existing ideas. 24 Mar 11:00 Poland Gdansk University of Technology Michal Mrozowski Outside EU procedures are much simpler. If Europe wants to be competitive it must get rid of most of the paperwork - let the researchers do the research and not waste their time! 24 Mar 15:32 Poland Gdańsk University of Technology Agnieszka Landowska Research funding is more and more complex and it seems to me, that theres lots of companies doing business on that fact in Europe . They make money for proposal preparation and project management. Researchers prefer to do research rather than plans, budgets and reports. 25 Mar 08:36 Poland Gdansk University of Technology Andrzej Dyka Each researcher affiliated with an appropriate EU research institution should be awarded a regular, small grant per year upon his application. After a certain period of time,(3 - 4 years), his results should be reviewed , and the decision, (upon further financing his research), made. This is the only way to provide a chance to the youngest generation of researchers, and a chance to bring some new, fresh ideas to practice. Larger projects should be financed through the Excellence Centra , where completing a necessary critical mass of manpower is possible. 25 Mar 09:58 Poland Gdansk University of Technology Lukasz Kulas European projects should be more focused on real innovations, therefore I fully approve this action. 3 Mar 09:24 Poland GeoStudio Poland Rafal Wawer Although I know few examples of failure of the project consortia I am convinced the simplification of procedures and European-wide transparent, homogeneous rules of conducting European projects are a must for the future. The rules should be simple and independent from national arrangements and regulations to avoid exclusions of actors from MSs where national regulation cause significant administrative burden. IMO the ultimate goal should be to increase of interest of SMEs to apply for and successfully run innovative projects. 22 Mar 12:20 Poland Institute of Electronic Systems, Warsaw University of Technology Konrad Hejn I have been waiting very much indeed for years! 6 Apr 09:19 Poland Institute of High Pressure Physics, Polish Academy of Sciences Bogdan Palosz more merit and trust - less costy bureaucracy 31 Mar 13:14 Poland Institute of Nuclear Physics Polish Academy of Sciences Piotr Zieliński Better knowledge on scientific contents of projects may reduce formal obstacles. This can better serve both the research and the society. 11 Apr 20:39 Poland Institute of Physics, West Pomeranian University of Technology Czeslaw Rudowicz I fully support this declaration. 19 Mar 11:24 Poland Institute of Plasma Physics and Laser Microfusion Pawel Gasior The reason should prevail, not regulations. The guidelines for preparation of a publication should not be longer than the publication itself. Scientist should be focused on their research and not on constant form filling and documents preparation. 19 Mar 08:54 Poland Instytut Lotnictwa - Institute of Aviation Zbigniew Pagowski No comments - I shall look forward to hearing from...bureaucracy! 17 Feb 16:15 Poland Instyutut Ochrony Środowiska / Institute of Environmental Protection Andrzej JESKE Im firmly supporting the public initiative to simplify the European research funding after being involved in 15 different projects of the total value exceeding 3 millons EURO. The price method should be used to establish the EC contribution within the grant agreements and contracts instead of the budget way in order to avoid the bureaucracy and local law discrepencies. 3 Mar 16:10 Poland Jagiellonian University Grazyna Skapska Because of these procedures, many apt and innovative researches simply avoid to apply for the European grants. 16 Mar 11:26 Poland Jagiellonian University Piotr Petelenz If European research is to be competitive with that conducted in America (which is difficult to attain anyway), the rules for the researcher to observe must by comparably flexible. At present, they are not; the bureaucratic burden in Europe is overwhelming! 30 Mar 12:54 Poland Jagiellonian University Karol Zyczkowski Scientists use more and more time for administrative duties at the expense of time devoted to their research. We shoud try to stop this trend. 30 Mar 15:18 Poland Jagiellonian University Stanislaw Knutelski The simplification of the bureaucratic procedure concerning European Union investigative grant projects would economize the effort and time of research workers. 30 Mar 16:35 Poland Jagiellonian University Joachim Szulc As Director of Institute of Geological Sciences I express our common impression that hypertrophy of the bureaucratic procedure accompanying every application discourages many natural scientists for preparing and realising projects. We should focus on science not on bureacracy!! 31 Mar 08:11 Poland Jagiellonian University MC, Department of Pathomorphology Wojciech Dabros no comments 21 Feb 13:28 Poland Jagiellonian University, Faculty of Physics, Astronomy, and Applied Computer Science Jozef Spalek I think that our EU funding system suffers from few defficiences, as compared to NSF (DMR...): 1) It is too formal; the administrators set the agenda, even the phrasing of the projects! (the terrible information driven society and the slogans like that) 2) The success rate is too low, as here must be at least 20-25% success, since then an appreciable number of people start believing in the system and would se a chance of applying; 3) As a representative of new member states, I find the system not quite objective (stereotypes play a role), but here I may be also not quite objective. 4) Many more small grants are needed. the heralded Ideas program should be a rule, not an exception, with too much propaganda about it, and much less substance. Here the British system should be taken as a model system for a further development (even our Polish grant system is better, albeit on a much smaller scale). Jozef Spalek, Krakow (PL) 3 Mar 21:57 Poland Krakow University of Technology Tracz Marian I fully support declaration which I received from prof. Werner Brilon, Ruhr Uni Germany 30 Mar 14:58 Poland Medical University Wieslawa Agnieszka FOGEL Wins fight who believes in victory 11 Jun 13:18 Poland Military University of Technology Tymoteusz Trocki Let us take this opportunity to support simplification of funding procedures on R&D in Europe by underlying the similarities and contrasts between the needs and the purposes of scientific activities. Let the need of promising scientific results that will proof commercially and financially satisfying not be obscured by the need of promised funding in order to perform science that misses the needs of the society that pays for it. Let us search for the needs. 31 Mar 17:32 Poland Nicholas Copernicus University Jaroslaw Meller As somebody working in US, and at the same time collaborating with many colleagues in Europe, I see huge differences between a relatively streamlined and focused on research ideas American model (NIH, NSF, private foundations) vs. very bureaucratic and focused on research unrelated criteria EU model. Time to change that if Europe wants to compete effectively. 8 Apr 13:32 Poland Nicolaus Copernicus University, Academic Entrepreurship Incubator Henryk Tomaszewski I fully aggree with Declaration statements 1 Apr 00:03 Poland Opole University Jerzy Dryzek I support the declaration. 8 Mar 08:19 Poland Plant Breeding & Acclimatization Institute Krzysztof Treder The simplest things are the most efficient. Proposal and reports should be focused on scientific ideas and achievements. Administrative and financial parts should be simplified as much as possible. 22 Mar 11:06 Poland Polish Academy of Sciences / Institute of Archaeology and Ethnology Lukasz Kaczmarek We want to make good research and create international and interdisciplinary collaboration links not to become the administrative clerks and our accountants slaves. Therefore we need good and comprehendable infrastructure and support and we dont need months wasted on struggling with beurocratic system. 11 Jun 01:00 Poland Polish Academy of Sciences, Institute of History Magdalena Micińska The era of communism was building the steps of bureaucracy and bans to stop people frpm being citizens. Demcratic Europe of XXI century is almost as good in this business. 19 Mar 16:22 Poland Politechnika Warszawska Andrzej Filipkowski I was coordinator in FP5 Project SEWING and partner in FP6 project WARMER. I found the bureaucracy increasing from one FP to another. I was scared to participate in FP7 project seeing how formalities are becoming involved. Both application with a proposal and later fulfilling all reporting formalities take more time than substantial work on the research. 30 Mar 14:53 Poland Poznan University of Life Sciences Dorota Cieslak finally a good movement! 21 Apr 22:09 Poland Poznan University of Life Sciences (PULS) Janusz Olejnik Great idea (!), confidence means effective work. Simplification of administration work will save a lot of time and allows all of us to concentrate on scientific work. 11 Feb 22:20 Poland POZNAN UNIVERSITY of TECHNOLOGY Zenon IGNASZAK procedures trop compliquees et non transparentes. critiques non coherentes dun concours a lautre. Les formalismes des fonctionnaires ont depasse les vraies valeurs des proposals. Les criteres destimation ne sont pas lisibles pour les specialistes. Les six sujets prepares par les centres europeens (Espagne, France) avec ma participation ont echoues. 18 Mar 08:52 Poland Poznan University of Technology Izabela Szafraniak-Wiza Trust Researchers! 24 Feb 13:35 Poland Rzeszow University of Technology Zapala Wojciech - 18 Feb 11:41 Poland Rzeszw University of Technology Andrzej Tomczyk It is a very good, important and useful idea! 20 Mar 13:14 Poland Silesian Technical Uniwersity Stanisław Waluś More administration - less scientific work 18 Mar 17:52 Poland Space Research Centre, Polish Academy of Sciences, Solar Physics Division Janusz Sylwester I do feel already severe consraints to the pace of reserch work coming from unnecessary and growing administrative limitations. This concerns as well European research program(s) as local Polish bureaucratic environment. 19 Mar 11:11 Poland Systems Research Institute, Polish Academy of Sciences Jan W. Owsinski Simplicity breeds effectiveness 28 Feb 17:42 Poland Technical University of Lodz Marcin Janicki I do agree with the protest. A couple of our projects were rejected only because they dis not address adequatly the gender issue, but how the hell can I find 50% of woman researchers in electronics?!?! 22 Jun 11:28 Poland Technical University of Lodz Wojciech Zabierowski Computer methods in music research, automatic generation of music score (ex. with neural networks) Web technology in business solutions. 27 Aug 12:04 Poland Technical University of Lodz Centre of Mathematics and Physics Janusz Kuliński I expect the simpification of the grant procedure for new technology of teaching. 7 Apr 12:12 Poland The Andrzej Sołtan Institute for Nuclear Studies Grzegorz Wilk I fully endorse the proposed declaration and hope that it will have positive effect. Otherwise we are facing vanishing from the worls scientific community which will be dominated by USA and China. This will result in the future in decline of the Europe as such as well. 6 Mar 01:47 Poland University Cassimir the Great Lech Witkowski The burden of application procedures and unclear criteria of approval of application are the main obstacles in mobilizing even high quality professors to apply. 6 Apr 21:55 Poland University of Environmental and Life Sciences Jerzy Hladyszowski I am strongly for the declaration 24 Mar 08:47 Poland University of Gdansk Danuta Makowiec The pile of papers needed prevents me from taking part in the program. 30 Mar 15:57 Poland University of Lodz Adam Busiakiewicz no risk = no science and no fun! 19 Feb 11:18 Poland University of Rzeszow Eugeniusz Szeregij (Sheregii - in public The preparation of an Application (beside the substantive part) requires about time of the one year of the intensive work. It is not acceptable. 7 Apr 17:49 Poland University of Silesia Institute of Physics Jerzy Warczewski It is a very good, democratic and creative idea. 5 Mar 11:02 Poland University of Warsaw, Department of Economics Jerzy Wilkin For me and for most of my colleagues from so called New Member States first experiences in participation in the EU farmework programs was a horror, due to huge bureaucratic burden related to them. Significant part of my work in the program as a head of research group was devoted to paper work. Trust does not exist in the procedures related to the EU sponsored research activity. Bureaucratic rigidities have been reducing motivation for joining EU research programs and make these programs less efficient. 10 Jun 19:50 Poland University of Warsaw, Warsaw School of Social Sciences and Humanities Grażyna Wieczorkowska-Wierzbińska VII The most important factor in evaluating the grant proposal should be – in my opinion- former achievements of the team - the results of the former research grant (national, European,….). So far a lot of effort is made to evaluate proposals ( beautiful promises of getting wonderful results) - the proposals are ranked. Evaluation of results doesn’t allow to differentiate between good and “not so good” researchers. By “good” I mean those who test IMPORTANT models (even if sometimes without success) creatively and use their money in the most effective way. This can be evaluated after the fact and not before. 15 Mar 13:13 Poland UYniversity of Lodz Wieslaw Oleksy I wholeheartedly support this petition. 8 Mar 22:45 Poland Warsaw University ewa Gorecka Do we really need gender issue’, social impact’ and these kind of stupidities in research projects? Is anybody able to read hundreds pages of guide for the proposal ? 30 Mar 21:51 Poland Warsaw University Bozena Choluj It is the first important initiative!!!! 31 Mar 00:44 Poland Warsaw University Władysław Turski Officialese and pedantry attract mediocre minds and repel bright ones. 2 Jun 16:43 Poland Warsaw University of Life Sciences, Faculty of Applied Informatics and Mathematics (WZIM) Leszek Chmielewski As a former expert of the IST Committe and EU Projects advisor at the National Contact Point I can see how the procedures change to more complex and more difficult to apply. This direction should be changed, or the universities and research institutes will not be able to accept the funds. Business-type financial and organisational procedures are now more important than science. Where are you going, European Research? 21 Feb 15:30 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Wieslaw Kuzmicz As a longtime participant and coordinator of EU funded projects and also evaluator of project proposals I support very strongly this declaration. Not only the financial rules should be greatly simplified (e.g. labour costs based on counting of hours worked for the project is a bureaucratic nonsense) but also inflexible rules of participation (e.g. STREPs vs. IPs - no room for anything in-between). High risk projects with potentially high impact should be preferred; now this is not the case. 18 Mar 15:00 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Zdobyslaw Goraj As a member of numerous of project consortia I am observing that over the years the relation between research effort and administrative effort (both enforced by the EC and national regulations) is rapidly changing (administrative obligations are increasing at the cost of time to be spent on pure research). And very often I am listening that we are spending the monies of European Taxpayer and it is why we need more and more formalities. It must be stopped - for sure the European Taxpayer does not need so overexpanded bureaucracy! 18 Mar 17:02 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Piotr Wolanski I strongly support the move. Very active scientists and researchers are overloaded with unnecessary bureaucratic activities. Please remember that major scientific discoveries were made during time when regulation were very simple. Strictly regulated Society have no chance to develop, as ants and bees! 18 Mar 22:46 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Andrzej Pfitzner High risk projects of potentially significant impact, among them feasibility studies of novel, creative concepts, should be preferred to achieve real, qualitatively significant technical progress. 19 Mar 12:47 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Krzysztof Kulpa It would be nice, if more effort can be directed toward research than to paper-work both during proposal preparation (more focus on science than management and other less important issues and during other part of work on grants. 19 Mar 12:57 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Lukasz Bartnik If things dont change were never going to catch up with the rest of the world... 19 Mar 14:47 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Jerzy Szabatin I fully support this initiative 19 Mar 16:14 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Bartosz Papis Formalisms and administrative burden consume lots of time, potential and resources. Student presence and identity verification is a weak and redundant procedure, which also puts personal data at additional risks. 19 Mar 16:27 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Stanislaw Adaszewski I wholeheartedly support the idea of minimizing formalisms necessary to receive European funding for research! Europe should focus more on punishing fraud criminals really hard (stop putting them into air-conditioned cells with access to gyms, television, libraries, etc. and make them pay back for what they stole!) not on making everything difficult from the very start for honest people. 23 Mar 11:47 Poland Warsaw University of Technology Tomasz Adamski I totally agree with this declaration !!!!! 19 Mar 18:57 Poland West Pomeranian Business school Rozwadowski Stanisław Jerzy First of all,the last legal and financial regulations related to the projects reporting are insulting a mankind inteligency.Many requested documents ,details ,proofs,proofs the proofs,banking documents confirming operations on the private accounts,double reporting forms with a diffirent data request,one for so called First level Control and completly diffrent for Project Financial Manager/twelve reports within three years-example BSR Programme/.Time consumption by reporting with a big losses for the project merit.It has no sense to participate in so bureaucratic projects in the future. 6 Apr 19:41 Poland Wroclaw University of Environmental and Life Science Tadeusz Trziszka We have a lot of administrative problems connected with realizationof European projects. There is not trust to researchers. Particularlly greatest problem is connected with auctions. 6 Apr 17:43 Poland Wroclaw University of Environmental and Life Sciences Jaroslaw Bosy Bureaucracy always support bureaucracy 7 Apr 15:33 Poland Wroclaw University of Environmental and Life Sciences Piotr Nowakowski Predictable science is not a real science. We are paid for pure research results but not for science. 5 Mar 04:55 Poland Wroclaw University of Technology Lukasz Miroslaw The innovations are risk prone and hard to predict. You cannot plan you will succeed! I agree with the declaration there should be a certain level or accepted risk. The politicians seem not to see it. 18 Mar 17:46 Poland Wroclaw University of Technology Pawel Kabacik The ptroposed revision is urgently needed as it might happen easy that university researcher performing three EU projects can be required to carry on administrative duties that take away all worktime - sadly to admitt - with no time for core research activity. 7 Apr 12:39 Poland WROCŁAW UNIVERSITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND LIFE SCIENCES Malgorzata Robak I fully agree with the declaration. Research must be politically and administratively free. Researchers have to precede technical development and to be independent of enterprises interests. Negative results of one research are important for the future one. We must trust researchers! 8 Apr 11:00 Poland Wrocław Uniwersity of Environmental and Life Sciences Anna Wondołowska-Grabowska I agree and support the declaration. Let’s make things easier… 18 Mar 14:28 Poland WSK PZL RZESZOW JACEK CZECH Strongly support the initiative. It should have been in place long time ago to stop the bureocracy and over-rigid administrative constraints from continuous growth! 20 Mar 03:53 Poland WSK Rzeszów Jacek Sowa We need to digest between burden on researchers and benefit for EU Back | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||